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石油物理紧缺逼近,中国成解局关键节点;AAOI 指引超预期引爆多空对决

2026-05-07 周四 (ET) · 主帖 73 / 回复 371
以下部分引用 AI 总结,现阶段 AI 仍然有幻觉。请以内容的原文为准。
一些重点
  1. 石油博弈库存见底,中国成边际定价者,物理短缺或推高油价
  2. AAOIQ1 财报不及预期但 Q4 利润率指引达 40%,多空分歧加剧
  3. Broadcom/OpenAI$180亿代工合作遇阻,首款定制芯片 Jalapeno 进展引关注
  4. Neoclouds供需缺口持续性存疑,资金更偏好存储板块
  5. Figma75% 大客户使用 AI 带来实质利好,但 6x+ 远期市销率让资金犹豫
  6. DDOGCPU 监控需求增长,Stifel 上调目标价至 $305
  7. WaymoWaymo 设资本市场主管释放 IPO 信号,但支付/SaaS 同行暴跌压制短期估值

1 宏观与地缘博弈

石油物理紧缺逼近 ⟪LINK29⟫

库存见底,中国成边际定价者,物理短缺或推高油价 群内对石油后市推演出现分歧,焦点在于中国战略意图及物理紧缺的爆发时点。

  • 库存见底: 库存消耗惊人,买卖价差缩小至 2 到 4 周,除中国外全球均在去库存 [1]Arun Dhar · 05-07"Going back to my views on the (likely manipulated) paper oil market, I'd like to think out loud coz I'm a taker of educa…"
  • 中国成关键: 中国持续增加石油和天然气储备,成为影响霍尔木兹海峡局势走向的边际决定者 [1]Arun Dhar · 05-07"Going back to my views on the (likely manipulated) paper oil market, I'd like to think out loud coz I'm a taker of educa…"
  • 物理短缺逼近: ConocoPhillips 警告 6-7 月可能出现严重短缺,Shell 称目前原油短缺近 10 亿桶 [2]kkhajavi7 · 05-08"The oil market had a grace period in March and April as tankers that departed the Persian Gulf before the war were still…"
  • 期货与现货倒挂: 如果达成协议,现货可能涨至 $200,但期货与现货 $100 的价差难以置信 [3]Bessents Burner · 05-07"A $100 futures physical gap is…implausible despite how without precedent this whole situation is"

2 AI 与科技主线

AAOI 多空对决 ⟪LINK30⟫

Q1 财报不及预期但 Q4 利润率指引达 40%,多空分歧加剧 空头质疑管理层信誉,多头押注产能扩张与利润率提升。

  • 空头:产能与信誉双重缺失 管理层屡次不及预期 + 作为大厂第四供应商(Player D)→ 解决产能问题难度极大,高指引被指“画大饼” [4]atl42 · 05-08"lol the guide makes absolutely zero sense and this mgmt team has a long history of blowing people up. this is going to e…" [5]atl42 · 05-08"whats a better short? i dont think these guys are going to have that easy of a time solving the capacity issues they're …"
  • 多头:周期向上 + 利润率扩张 Q1 漏判不重要 = 800G 尚未完全爬坡;FY27 营收上调至 $6Bn + Q4 利润率指引达 40% 市场在上升周期愿给容忍度 [6]futuristoptical1312 · 05-08"The valuation is well justified - they upped FY27 numbers to almost 6Bn run rate - that's 2x P/S, nothing." [7]futuristoptical1312 · 05-08"Nobody cared about 1Q miss, that's the past. They told you previously that 1Q didn't matter, because the 800G didn't eve…" [8]futuristoptical1312 · 05-08"and they guided that 4Q margins will reach 40%, so it's not just revenue upside, but margins improve too"

Broadcom 代工遇阻 ⟪LINK31⟫

OpenAI $180亿定制芯片代工遇阻,Hock Tan 或在 6 月财报澄清 Nexus 计划首期需 1.3 GW 数据中心容量,定制芯片 Jalapeno 旨在提升能效。

  • 融资与产能瓶颈: Broadcom 融资首期芯片生产遇阻 = 需 1.3 GW 容量 + $180亿成本;完整 Nexus 计划达 10 GW 仅芯片生产成本即达 $1800亿 [9]Maverick · 05-07"Months later, the companies are negotiating an agreement for Broadcom to finance the first phase of chip production, whi…"
  • Jalapeno 芯片: OpenAI 首款定制芯片 Jalapeno 旨在比 NVDA 通用 GPU 更高效运行现有模型 [10]Hunter · 05-07""OpenAI’s first custom chip, code-named Jalapeno, is designed to power its existing models more efficiently than Nvidia’…"
  • 市场预期: 群内预期 Hock Tan 将在 6 月 3 日辟谣;Cerebras 替代 Broadcom 的可能性被认为极低 [11]SemiStud · 05-07"on June 3rd Hock is going to say something to the effect "those articles are bullshit, things are progressing as planned…" [12]Maverick · 05-07"cerebras a stretch"

Neoclouds 估值探讨 ⟪LINK32⟫

供需缺口持续性存疑,资金更偏好存储板块 群内对 Neoclouds 的商业模式及估值上限展开讨论。

  • 商业模式受疑: 被比作“柠檬水摊”,缺乏定价权,完全依赖英伟达的意愿 [13]Arun Dhar · 05-07"IREN is v interesting. on CRWV <@U0ARTLLG7DJ> why isn't the big picture that they're a lemonade stand who's a price take…"
  • 估值测算: 以 CRWV 为例,若达到 5GW 产能,按 $8Bn/GW 营收和 15% 利润率计算,稳态 EBIT 为 $6Bn [14]RootBacco · 05-07"Below was a bit buried in older thread on valuing neoclouds - maybe relevant here. Thoughts appreciated :) “Was thinking…"
  • 资金流向存储: 若需求失衡持续,资金更倾向于购买 SNDKMU 等执行力强的存储标的 [15]Arun Dhar · 05-07"if you think demand imbalance persists (and there's a decision tree here which is a f(n) of cadence of newer sota models…"

Figma 业绩预期 ⟪LINK33⟫

75% 大客户使用 AI 带来实质利好,但 6x+ 远期市销率让资金犹豫 群内看好 Figma 本季度表现,但对其长期估值存在分歧。

  • AI 赋能: 75% 的大客户每周使用 AI,可能是首个从 AI 中获得实质性利好的非基础设施软件 [16]Penjamin Williams Louis · 05-07"75% of FIG customers &gt;$10k in arr used AI weekly. Credit plus model went into affect in March. Feedback has been posi…"
  • 估值担忧: 相比 BRZE 等增速相近的公司,6x+ 的远期销售倍数显得偏高 [17]Hunter · 05-07"I know it's not apples to apples at all but I have a hard time getting behind the 6x+ fwd sales multiple when there's na…"

DDOG 目标价上调 ⟪LINK34⟫

CPU 监控需求增长,Stifel 上调目标价至 $305 群内认为 DDOG 能从 AI 带来的 CPU 监控需求中获益。

  • 目标价上调: Stifel 将 DDOG 目标价上调至 $305 [18]Akh · 05-07"Stifel raises DDOG to $305 :eyes:"
  • 逻辑支撑: 更多 CPU 逻辑意味着更多工作流需要监控,DDOG 有望从中获益 [19]Mark Chen · 05-07"This might be too much to imagine, but have a feeling that the more CPU logic also means these CPU induced workflow coul…"

Waymo IPO 猜测 ⟪LINK35⟫

Waymo 设资本市场主管释放 IPO 信号,但支付/SaaS 同行暴跌压制短期估值 Waymo 招聘资本市场主管引发关注,但市场环境并不利于 IPO。

  • 招聘动作: Waymo 招聘资本市场、投资者关系和交易财务主管,引发 IPO 猜测 [20]AB · 05-08"https://careers.withwaymo.com/jobs/head-of-capital-markets-investor-relations-and-deal-finance-mountain-view-california-…"
  • 市场环境: 同行如 Adyen、PYPL 表现疲软,此时 IPO 难度较大 [21]AB · 05-09"Hard to see Stripe coming public when $Adyey $pypl $Xyz closest peers are getting smoked."