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HBF

35 atoms · 跨 11 天 · 首见 2026-04-26 · 最近 2026-06-16

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↑ 上游·近期陈述 (1)

🟢 KAIST · 替代 · 1 次陈述
KAIST 液冷技术被视为 HBF 的利好

🟦 客观事实 (facts) (14)

<a id="atom-f319e832370d7927"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 密度是当代 HBM 的 8-16 倍 · 存储密度/成本优势
representing 8 to 16 times the density of contemporary HBM stacks at lower cost per bit
tags: 好数字·好观点 · → daily
value: qty=8-16x · direction=higher
<a id="atom-d72a3159e360d693"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@zephyr_z9 · MP start date · 产品发布
HBF's MP will start in late 2027 or early 28
tags: 好信源 · → daily
value: date=late 2027 or early 28
<a id="atom-07c9b2589292cac2"></a>🟦 2026-05-24 X·@zephyr_z9 · 用于写密集型任务（如KV缓存存储） · 技术路线/供给产能
HBF won't be used for any write-heavy tasks like KV cache storage
tags: 好思考 · → daily
<a id="atom-361a1e3e6ba39fb4"></a>🟦 2026-05-24 X·@zephyr_z9 · 用于存储权重 · 技术路线/供给产能
You can use it for storing weights
tags: 好思考 · → daily
<a id="atom-6913da98953a4c9e"></a>🟦 2026-05-24 X·@iFred · 未列入任何加速器集成路线图 · 技术路线/产品发布
It isn’t on the roadmap as any integrated material to an accelerator.
tags: 好思考 · → daily
<a id="atom-2cbfdcb4a17bcfa1"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 读带宽约 1.6 TB/s · 带宽/技术指标
HBF stacks 3D NAND dies in an HBM-like package with the same footprint, TSV interconnects, and wide bus to deliver approximately 1.6 TB/s read bandwidth
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~1.6 TB/s
<a id="atom-57aaf7fc200f007e"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 容量约 512 GB/堆栈 · 存储容量/技术指标
capacities up to roughly 512 GB per stack
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~512 GB per stack
<a id="atom-2dd9b17cecce5ea1"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 读取延迟高于 DRAM · 延迟/技术指标
Its drawbacks, including higher read latency than DRAM
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: direction=higher
<a id="atom-02242f9dd615c49c"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 写寿命约 10^5 次 · 写入耐久度/技术指标
limited write endurance of around 10^5 cycles
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~10^5 cycles
<a id="atom-53b74092a4a0ec03"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 配置 6 堆栈 HBF + 2 堆栈 HBM 有效容量达 3,120 GB · 存储容量/配置
A configuration of six HBF stacks plus two HBM stacks yields approximately 3,120 GB effective capacity
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~3,120 GB
<a id="atom-2a490c99f91e1c68"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 全 HBM 配置容量约 192 GB · 存储容量/配置
versus roughly 192 GB in an all-HBM setup
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~192 GB
<a id="atom-381533f0f9756dda"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@EugeneNg · capacity per stack · 供给产能/出货量
Massive capacity: ~512 GB per stack
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~512 GB · date=na
📷 原图
<a id="atom-be4a46a21d7ceea9"></a>🟦 2026-05-23 X·@EugeneNg · bandwidth per stack · 价格动态/技术路线
Strong bandwidth: Up to ~1.6 TB/s+ per stack
tags: 好数字 · → daily
value: qty=~1.6 TB/s+ · date=na
📷 原图
<a id="atom-560257bd393d3e7f"></a>🟦 2026-05-01 X·@jukan05 · demand outlook vs HBM · 订单需求
From 2038 onward, demand for HBF will surpass that of HBM
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: date=2038
📷 原图

🟥 多头 takes (bullish) (10)

<a id="atom-c00e53fae99946b8"></a>🟥 2026-05-14 X·@SemiEngineering · AI效率改进 · 技术路线/AI效率
Inspired by HBM, HBF could improve AI efficiency in 3D flash memory.
tags: 好思考·好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-6e9977ba576b1099"></a>🟥 2026-05-29 X·@valleyinvesting · 市场热度 · 订单需求
seems HBF is catching steam
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: direction=catching steam
<a id="atom-6f6c5e8a18193e3f"></a>🟥 2026-05-24 X·@zephyr_z9 · potential adoption approach · 技术路线
I can see GPU designers adopting an 8 HBM stack + 4 HBF stack approach
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: qty=8 HBM stack + 4 HBF stack · direction=adopting
<a id="atom-e53eceb94220b755"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@rubicon59 · High Bandwidth Flash is the next bottleneck after HBM · 技术路线/供给产能
The Next Bottleneck After HBM Is HBF
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-447cf20bd25a4a26"></a>🟥 2026-06-16 群 ◌ [老化中] · 利好因素 · 液冷技术/利好
KAIST 液冷技术被视为 HBF 的利好
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-72ad0fb432570070"></a>🟥 2026-06-05 X·@trendforce · next-gen memory for AI inference · 技术路线/订单需求
🚀 #HBF is emerging as the next-gen memory for AI inference
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-73466d6b2d15d7ec"></a>🟥 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 内存供应商加速 HBF 采样，目标 2026 年底 · 产品采样/时间线
driving memory suppliers to accelerate HBF sampling targeted for late 2026
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: date=late 2026
<a id="atom-d9f2ff74875a750f"></a>🟥 2026-05-23 X·@OmerCheeema · 软件启用目标 2027 年初推理系统 · 软件支持/时间线
software enablement for early 2027 inference systems
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: date=early 2027
<a id="atom-29e13464fbac7cc0"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@bubbleboi · 即将到来 · 技术路线
HBF is coming and the market has no clue
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-a9dcb4e714c0620a"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@bubbleboi · 被预测为HBM之后的下一个瓶颈 · 技术路线/供给产能
The Next Bottleneck After HBM Is HBF
tags: 好观点 · → daily

🟥 空头 takes (bearish) (3)

<a id="atom-8ffe4bd76b542f54"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@damnang2 [老化中] · looks more like an architecture proposal led by memory companies, not a consensus across full system architecture · 竞争格局/技术路线
HBF still looks more like an architecture proposal led by memory companies, rather than a consensus across the full system architecture.
tags: 好观点·好思考 · → daily
<a id="atom-876d7a5cb581bea2"></a>🟥 2026-05-24 X·@zephyr_z9 [老旧] · near-term adoption · 技术路线
I'm just not too sure about HBF adoption in the near term, as far as I can tell, even Feynman isn't adopting it
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: direction=not adopted
<a id="atom-308b7ebdce2028d7"></a>🟥 2026-05-23 X·@RickXie10 · 产品定位 · 竞争格局/技术路线
I always think HBF got an awkward product position. It tries to solve HBM's high cost and limited capacity, yet it cannot handle HBM's core jobs which are low latency, frequent writes, random access, and reliable training memory.
tags: 好观点 · → daily

🟥 中性 takes (neutral) (5)

<a id="atom-fe5c6fbe11c23463"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@bubbleboi · 营收时间线 · 产品发布/路线图
It’s too early we are 8 quarters out before we even see revenue
tags: 好观点·好思考 · → daily
value: qty=8个季度 · date=营收前
<a id="atom-c96a3717000d6953"></a>🟥 2026-06-09 X·@bookwormengr · HBF is the idea behind FFN NAND-like approach · 技术路线
This is the idea behind HBF by the way.
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-832578540aee8c7a"></a>🟥 2026-05-24 X·@zephyr_z9 · useful if model sizes grow · 技术路线
HBF can be useful if model sizes grow to 50T-100T parameters
tags: 好观点 · → daily
value: qty=50T-100T · direction=parameters
<a id="atom-3450ea0961ca0212"></a>🟥 2026-06-07 X·@damnang2 [老旧] · research validation risk · 仓位情绪
I really do not think it is HBF....... If it is, then I would have to rethink all of my research and assumptions so far.
tags: 好观点 · → daily
<a id="atom-2e0ed44b5a54e942"></a>🟥 2026-05-01 X·@damnang2 [老旧] · current technical potential not denied · 技术路线
I am not denying the technical potential of HBF itself.
tags: 好观点 · → daily

⏱ 时间轴 (近 20)

🟥 2026-06-16 · position · 利好因素 · → daily
🟥 2026-06-09 · narrative · HBF is the idea behind FFN NAND-like approach · → daily
🟥 2026-06-07 · position · research validation risk · → daily
🟥 2026-06-05 · narrative · next-gen memory for AI inference · → daily
🟥 2026-05-29 · narrative · 市场热度 · → daily
🟦 2026-05-24 · fact · 用于写密集型任务（如KV缓存存储） · → daily
🟦 2026-05-24 · fact · 用于存储权重 · → daily
🟦 2026-05-24 · fact · 未列入任何加速器集成路线图 · → daily
🟥 2026-05-24 · fact · target workload · → daily
🟥 2026-05-24 · forecast · useful if model sizes grow · → daily
🟥 2026-05-24 · position · near-term adoption · → daily
🟥 2026-05-24 · forecast · potential adoption approach · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 读带宽约 1.6 TB/s · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 容量约 512 GB/堆栈 · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 密度是当代 HBM 的 8-16 倍 · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 读取延迟高于 DRAM · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 写寿命约 10^5 次 · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 配置 6 堆栈 HBF + 2 堆栈 HBM 有效容量达 3,120 GB · → daily
🟦 2026-05-23 · fact · 全 HBM 配置容量约 192 GB · → daily
🟥 2026-05-23 · forecast · 内存供应商加速 HBF 采样，目标 2026 年底 · → daily

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