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超大厂 Capex 指引超预期但市场不买账;NVDA 护城河再遭 Custom Silicon 论战

2026-04-29 周三 (ET) · 主帖 127 / 回复 341
以下部分引用 AI 总结,现阶段 AI 仍然有幻觉。请以内容的原文为准。
一些重点
  1. META/MSFT/AMZNCapex 均超预期,但股价反应平淡甚至下跌,市场对 AI 变现耐心耗尽
  2. NVDA 护城河群内激辩 Custom Silicon 威胁,多头认为 CoWoS/HBM 产能早被 NVDA 锁定
  3. QCOM 暴涨确认与头部超大厂的 Custom Silicon 合作,盘后大涨 8%
  4. Anthropic 估值传新一轮估值达 $900B,引发对算力军备竞赛的进一步担忧
  5. DeepSeek V4新架构大幅增加 SSD 使用,NAND 需求或迎指数级增长
  6. 宏观/原油UAE 退出 OPEC 传闻引发地缘担忧,原油上涨压制科技股情绪

1 超大厂财报与 AI Capex:指引超预期,但市场不买账

超大厂财报反应 ⟪LINK28⟫

Capex 指引全面上调,但市场对 AI 变现的耐心正在耗尽 META、MSFTAMZN 盘后均表现疲软,市场从“买 Capex 预期”转向“要利润兑现”

  • META Capex 大幅上调: META 将 FY Capex 指引从 $115B-$135B 上调至 $125B-$145B[1]H-Cap · 04-29"*META SEES FY CAPEX $125B TO $145B, SAW $115B TO $135B",但股价盘后下跌,群友指出主要因指引偏弱[2]ALC · 04-29"Also the weak guide"
  • MSFT 疲软: MSFT 盘后走弱,群友认为 CY26 Capex 指引高于买方和卖方预期[3]Mei · 04-29"CY26 Capex guide higher than sellside and possibly buyside",且 NNR(净新增收入)低于 AWS 和 GCP,被视作负面信号[4]Warren Arbor · 04-29"… really want to, this is a way to frame MSFT results badly (NNR lower than AWS and GCP this q)"
  • AMZN AWS 增速: AWS 增速达 28%[5]TMT Breakout · 04-29"AWS 28%",盘后由跌转涨,群友认为其未来营收增长潜力更大[6]gstealth5 · 04-29"Amzn ah turning the corner from red to green.+1.3% ...rev growth going forward higher potential for upside"
  • 半导体板块未跟随: 尽管超大厂 Capex 大增,但半导体板块(SOXX)几乎没有反应[7]Tech L/S · 04-29"SEMIS barely reacting to hypers $soxx",显示市场对硬件叙事的疲劳。

NVDA 护城河论战 ⟪LINK29⟫

Custom Silicon 威胁论再起,但多头认为 NVDA 已锁死核心产能 围绕超大厂自研芯片是否会侵蚀 NVDA 份额的深度辩论

  • NVDA 产能锁死: 群内 NVDA 多头指出,NVDA 已锁定 TSMC 2026 年约 60% 的 CoWoS 产能(80-85 万片晶圆),超大厂只能争夺剩余 40%[8]Ben Pouladian · 04-30"…legit and so is TPU here is my take quick take on both: (A) NVDA already locked ~60% of TSMC’s 2026 CoWoS (800-850K wafers) and TSMC is doubling capacity to 150K waf…"。真正的瓶颈 HBM 也被 NVDA 优先锁定。
  • Pre-training 仍需 NVDA: 目前除 TPU 外,没有前沿模型在 Custom Silicon 上完成端到端预训练的公开案例。Anthropic 的 Trainium 主要是 co-training 和推理。没人敢在不成熟的软件栈上押注 $5B 的训练运行[8]Ben Pouladian · 04-30"… wins inference TCO, but pre-training stays on NVDA because nobody bets a $5B training run on an immature software stack. The bull case for AVGO/custom doesn’t actually require NVD…"
  • 空头逻辑:推理市场更大 空头认为,随着模型接近 AGI,训练需求将让位于推理,而 ASICs 在推理 TCO 上优势明显,这将压制 NVDA 的长期估值倍数[9]Tech L/S · 04-30"…e are not training models once they are close to ASI / AGI. If ASICS are better on TCO on inference it is a huge problem for NVDA down the line and the multiple here is going to be (and is)…"
  • 新需求层:物理 AI 多头反驳称,现实世界实体 AI(机器人、自动驾驶、无人机、工厂)将带来巨大的全新训练需求层,NVDA 将在此占据主导[10]kkhajavi7 · 04-30"real world embodied ai - robots, autonomous vehicles, drones, factories, warehouses, home robots — that's a whole new an…"

QCOM 确认大厂合作 ⟪LINK30⟫

QCOM 确认与头部超大厂的 Custom Silicon 合作,盘后暴涨

  • QCOM 合作确认: QCOM 宣布与一家领先的 Hyperscaler 达成 Custom Silicon 合作,将于今年晚些时候开始发货[11]H-Cap · 04-29"huge swing: *Qualcomm: Leading Hyperscaler Custom Silicon Engagement Is on Track for Initial Shipments Later This Calendar Year >QCOM"
  • 盘后 V 型反转: 消息公布后,股价从盘后下跌 4% 迅速拉升至上涨 8%[12]H-Cap · 04-29"stock was initially down 4% now up 8%",空头遭到重创[13]Tech L/S · 04-29"Shorts not happy this and NXPI"

DeepSeek V4 与存储 ⟪LINK31⟫

DeepSeek V4 架构或引爆 SSD/NAND 需求

  • KV Cache 迁移: DeepSeek V4 压缩 KV Cache 至 V3.2 的 10% 大规模从昂贵的 DRAM/HBM 迁移至更便宜、容量更大的 SSD[14]TMT Breakout · 04-29"…ated engineering work on SSD-based KV cache, which together migrate KV cache from expensive, capacity-limited DRAM / HBM onto larger and cheaper SSD at scale. We believe DeepSeek V4’s cache-hit repricing implies upsid…"
  • NAND 需求看涨: 群友分享研报认为,这一架构变化将导致 NAND 需求呈指数级增长,利好 SNDK存储标的[14]TMT Breakout · 04-29"…pSeek V4’s cache-hit repricing implies upside for SSD, with NAND demand set to grow exponentially.Based on our checks, DeepSeek’s current SSD configuration a…"

2 宏观与市场情绪:地缘风险压制科技股

原油与地缘风险 ⟪LINK32⟫

UAE 退出 OPEC 传闻被视为看跌信号,原油上涨压制大盘

  • UAE 退出 OPEC 影响: 群友分析认为,UAE 退出 OPEC 是因为伊朗即将要求配额,UAE 不愿承担损失。这暗示霍尔木兹海峡短期内不会开放,或者将在伊朗控制下开放[15]Arun Dhar · 04-29"Guys, having thought more about UAE leaving OPEC, I think its quite a bearish outcome. 1. Nothing to do with quid pro qu…"
  • 能源股 vs 科技股: 布伦特原油近期上涨 10%,群友认为能源股(如 SLB、CVX、XOM)具有吸引力[16]Bubbles · 04-29"…ct +~10% in last week and yet market does not seem to care. Energy equities are ripe for the picking. If you believe any of what trump is alluding too (clearly …";高油价挤压利润 + 推高通胀 压制大盘和科技股[16]Bubbles · 04-29"…s on the whole are in for tough sledding in months to come. Higher diesel gasoline will crimp margins across the board let alone feed inflation. The 10yr is breaking out this morning as a result. Higher …"
  • 市场情绪脆弱: 群友感慨,如果没有战争和原油上涨的拖累,纳斯达克今天本该上涨 2-3%[17]Tae Kim · 04-30"in imaginary land, where there is no war, nasdaq would be up 2-3% tomorrow."

Anthropic 估值飙升 ⟪LINK33⟫

Anthropic 估值传闻达 $900B,算力军备竞赛持续

  • Anthropic 估值: 传闻 Anthropic 正在评估超过 $900B 估值的融资提案[18]Akh · 04-29"ANTHROPIC IS REPORTEDLY EVALUATING FUNDING PROPOSALS THAT WOULD VALUE THE COMPANY AT MORE THAN $900 BILLION."
  • 散户需求旺盛: 群友透露,有 $1.25B 规模的额度在兜售,富裕散户的需求极其旺盛[19]Gavin · 04-29"I am being offered size at 1.25bn. Demand from rich retail insatiable."